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baliboy

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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:50 pm

4x latching problems

hi my name is john and i have been into balisongs since i began karate in 1985. i am now 36 and the fire lives on :)


on a 4x spring latch does the titanium eventually wear thin where the latch locks the bali up and there fore make the latch/locking mechanism loose?
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:54 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

You must go to introduce yourself. Once there, make a proper introduction. Until you do, no answers for you!
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:13 pm

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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:16 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

I suppose it could, but I do not currently own a 42, nor have I personally experienced the problem you describe. If I'm not mistaken the latch itself is made from steel, while the handles are titanium. Steel being harder than Ti, it COULD wear it away. That said I think it might take a lot of latching/unlatching to make this happen. At any rate you could send it to Benchmade and see if they can make fixee fixee.
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:23 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

I think I heard somewhere that vince had a problem with that, that his latch is hardly functional now from such use. Ofcourse I doubt you're ever going to flip as much as he does but still I would think he'd be the person to ask, try PMing Vincent_Dark...
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:02 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

baliboy wrote:hi my name is john and i have been into balisongs since i began karate in 1985. i am now 36 and the fire lives on on a 4x spring latch does the titanium eventually wear thin where the latch locks the bali up and there fore make the latch/locking mechanism loose?


The spring will fail before anything else.

Titanium will not wear thin.
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:06 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

but the actual latch could right?
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:17 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

I'm 90% positive the latch is titanium. Exactly what kind of wear are you referring to? It's a bit hard to tell from the way you loosely described your issue. A photo, or even some shitty mspaint mockup would help me (us?) immensely.
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:24 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

The latch isn't ti. I'm pretty sure it's actually made of steel though.

Just what I know.
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:26 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

its nothing i am experiencing now - i was just wondering if its something i should watch for down the road and therefore only lock it when i need to - like if i am carrying it.....
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baliboy

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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:28 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

to be more specific - where the latch goes into the handles to lock the bali. if this is repeated enough times won't either the handle or latch wear thinner and therefore loosen the latch/locking mechanism?
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:29 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

So, do you mean the round inprint in the handle that the latch sets in when closed? I excessively manipulate the latch on my 42, and have yet to see any wear regarding that.

Edit: didn't realize you posted again right before I did. To answer your question- no. You would have to try quite hard to damage the upper portion of the indent to the point where it won't lock. Popping the handles open t-latch style instead of squeezing the handles could do the trick much faster, too. In other words- squeeze the handles, though this is common sense.
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:32 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

Erenoth wrote:So, do you mean the round inprint in the handle that the latch sets in when closed? I excessively manipulate the latch on my 42, and have yet to see any wear regarding that.

excessively manipulate meaning you lock it a lot? yes this is what i mean :)
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:33 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

baliboy wrote:
Erenoth wrote:So, do you mean the round inprint in the handle that the latch sets in when closed? I excessively manipulate the latch on my 42, and have yet to see any wear regarding that.

excessively manipulate meaning you lock it a lot? yes this is what i mean :)


Locking it often, and performing what I dub "latch drop aerials".
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Post Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:56 pm

Re: 4x latching problems

ive owned 2 42's a 43 adn a 47. they all will lose latch tightness over time in the open or closed positon. part of it is the wear on the latch and the cup it sits in (the grippy edges of the cup is what will wear down and let it come open unintentonally) . the bigger issue is teh combination of the tang pin being slightly disformed from alot of flipping coupled with the latch being used over and over again. i do excessive latch drops and latch wokr and that does not effect the lockup. the only real issue is the two reasons i mentioned. and the tang pin only refers to latching it open. overall though if u dont abuse your balisong u will only lose a super tight lock up, not lock up all together. ive beat on my 42 alot and it still locks up good overall but is not what it used to be and im sure if i continue this it will end up like vincent darks where it will pop open with very little force. but again as someone mentioned maybe bm can fix the problem and its not a problem u will run into easily or quickly with reasonable flipping.

also i kind of like the fact i dont hav2 use to hands to lock my balisong anymnore and taht i can use a finger to do it, it makes transitioning from flipping noramlly to closed work a easy thing and with more flow. if anytuing when your latch holds firm but latches easily i would say u have a well broken in balisong, not to hard not to easy.
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