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Post Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:20 pm

The IDunnoWTF5fingerTwirlLoopThing

What I was going for was a manuever using all 5 fingers, with the knife moving only on one axis and only in one direction, in circular pattern that could be looped (the ROTOR also uses one axis, but it's bi-directional - it goes back and forth a lot).

The trouble I'm having with my trick is that there's a stall near the beginning of each loop (right after the rollover), and I can't figure out a way around it. Watch how much my arm moves right there. That's how much force I have to apply to get the knife where I want after the rollover, and it always results in slamming the safe handle into my knuckles before I can get them out of the way. I can't do a ricochet there, because (A) the whole point of the trick is to keep the knife moving in one direction on one axis and (B) I would chop my thumb off. The only other options I have would be to do an aerial off my little finger (not likely) or to find a second path back to the thumb that would avoid that weird rollover (I'll experiment).

Practicing this same trick with the same knife has only improved consistency over the past week - In other words, I can do more of the loops sequentially, but they haven't gotten any smoother over the past week. I'm curious to see what would happen if I used a significantly oversized knife. That would take a few days (at best) to build. I should point out that my hands aren't exactly small - that's a 8.75" inch knife in the vid.

Can you guys see the slowmotion clearly enough to duplicate it? Any suggestions?
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Post Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:23 pm

Re: Brokenbrains vs. Matnotah

I can see the slow-me well enough to be able to dupe it. I might try but i'm not very good with spinning the knife like that. You'll beat my ass at that trick for sure. I'll work with it and see what I can help ya with, but don't expect much from me.

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Post Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:24 pm

Re: Brokenbrains vs. Matnotah

watch murnax's ladder that may help.

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Post Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:59 pm

Re: Brokenbrains vs. Matnotah

Couldn't find Murnax's Ladder. Found Incubis again, though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CkB9X8Tv2g

It's upside down, backards, and bi-directional, but the steps he takes back to his index finger is similar to one of the 'second paths' I was thinking about. Note that he doesn't use his thumb in the ladder. Heh.
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Post Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:56 am

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My comp sucks and it isn't letting me slow down the slow part anymore than it already is. WTF?

Would you be able to do that for me real quick sometime? I'd REALLY appreciate it.

Thanks.

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Post Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:17 pm

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I'll try to make a step-by-step tonight. I'll probably include an easy cheater variant too.
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Post Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:21 pm

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brokenbrains wrote:I'll try to make a step-by-step tonight. I'll probably include an easy cheater variant too.


Oh? That'd be fantastic man!

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Post Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:35 pm

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I kept hearing about murnax' ladder and it took me forever to find it.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://bal ... sylum.org/ it's in there somewhere
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Post Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:49 pm

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http://web.archive.org/web/200610051259 ... rg/Murnax/

last one.

ladder tuto.

good luck.

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Post Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:34 pm

Re: The IDunnoWTF5fingerTwirlLoopThing

I so feel like putting this on the Tube...
I can nail it now :)
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Post Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:40 pm

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Str8gallis wrote:I so feel like putting this on the Tube...
I can nail it now :)


DO IT!!!!
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Post Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:57 pm

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feenxfire wrote:
Str8gallis wrote:I so feel like putting this on the Tube...
I can nail it now :)


DO IT!!!!


Ok, so that's about 3 videos to make now...lol.
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Post Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:10 pm

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Sorry it's a little later than I had planned. Busy busy busy.

I think the thumbover part may have gone out of frame a bit.

I was poking around on youtube. Found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2C_9waBRq4
The thumbover he's doing is just like the thumbover finish I've been doing in mine. The actual thumbover in the trick is pretty much the same thing, you just have to catch it earlier so you grab the bite handle instead of the safe handle like he's doing. Actually, if you look closely at his walkthrough, you can see him grabbing the bite handle and letting the knife slip to grab the safe handle.

Anyways, he got a better angle on that thumbover than what I can do with my current camera setup.

There are lots of other finishes you can do. If you time it just right with the right amount of force on the twirl, you can catch the spine of the blade instead. I can't do that very consistently though.

I'll do a tut for the easy 4finger variant shortly.

I'm working on an 8 or 9 finger variant, but I'll probably end up using that in a challenge.
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Post Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:29 pm

Re: The IDunnoWTF5fingerTwirlLoopThing

Str8gallis wrote:I so feel like putting this on the Tube...
I can nail it now :)



So....quit talking about it and do it.

Isn't that what this Flipping Arena is about???

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