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Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:08 pm
by ThatGuy
can anyone help a noob out on the helix? i always pause going into the third rollover, is there any way i can make it more smooth?

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:38 pm
by pygmy_marmoset
As you transition from the second to third rollover, it should be all in the wrist. Personally, as I go into the third rollover I also use my thumb to help push the rollover, it sort of looks like I'm making a thumbs up for a second. That's what works for me.

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:23 pm
by ThatGuy
alright thanks :D ill try it

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:30 pm
by ThatGuy
that seems to help a bit, but i think the rest of it just requires practice, how long did it take you to learn it?

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:42 pm
by pygmy_marmoset
To learn it well enough to be able to do it, it took maybe a few weeks. Not counting the time it took to learn the y2k which is a prerequisite. But to actually refine the helix and be able to do it with speed and consistency it took several more months. And with the last challenge I did here, where people told me to work on using my wrist more, helped me improve it further. The wrist motion is important, I thought I was already using my wrist enough but I wasn't. Going into the last rollover you have to flip your wrist up and towards you, it almost feels like you're throwing the balisong into yourself. I also think me using my thumb to push the balisong as it rolls helps too, I use my thumb to push during behind the 8-balls as well.

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:48 pm
by ThatGuy
alright thanks, and yeah it actually took me a day to learn the y2k and zen rollovers :lol:
but i didn't think it would take that long, oh well, ill just keep working on it

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:59 pm
by pygmy_marmoset
There's learning a trick and then there's refinement which is an ongoing process. To get to the point where you never drop it, can do continuous helixes and still have it be fast, etc. There is never really a limit to how good you can become at a trick. I don't really pay attention to how long it takes me to learn tricks I just flip for the sake of flipping.

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:59 pm
by ThatGuy
true, thanks for the help :D

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:11 pm
by HonorHer
took my 3 months to finally get my helix smooth. once i got it tho i instantly figured everything else out...... but when you transition from pointer to thumb try to touch them together like your making an "OK" sign then just lift your hand momentum alone will do the trick for you

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:32 pm
by ThatGuy
alright thanks :P

Re: Help on the Helix

PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:27 pm
by xtjx09
I'll tell you what worked for me, was learning the blender. it's the opposite roll, but just going from one to the other, is the challenge. try learning the blender if you haven't already.